Comments on: Leaked Elders’ Training Videos for 2018: Pioneering is Just a Title, a Reward and a Punishment

By: Runaway Slave

Runaway Slave — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 02:57:22 +0000

I slogged away as a pioneer in the 1960s putting in over 100 hours a month. My second assignment was to team up with a sister and her family who had gone to work where the “need was greater”. Month after month for almost a year the sister deferred pioneering with me saying that she “had to work just a little while longer”. I had no transport and walked endless miles each day. Eventually I talked to the Circuit Overseer and asked if I could take a month off to recuperate as I was exhausted. Imagine my surprise when I received a letter from Bethel a few weeks later stating that they accepted “my request to be removed from the pioneer list”. I never pioneered again. A couple of years later, on a holiday, I bumped into the CO coming out of a bottle shop at 9 am – when I spoke to him he had no idea who I was his brain was so addled. I learned latter that he was disfellowshipped for drunkeness.

When I was a young girl I saw ALL the brothers through rose coloured glasses, but when I went pioneering and faced the serious business of full time preaching I quickly realised that many of the elders are inept and should never be appointed to that position.

By: zeb

zeb — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 01:49:54 +0000

A firm of Lawyers in Canada have put out a guide to the abused called ‘breaking the silence.’ This is an excellent idea and more strong legal teams should be doing the same.

By: zeb

zeb — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 01:45:39 +0000

Once again women cop shit! Instead of ‘transfer to the publisher ranks’ ( those low lifes)how about “will be welcomed to take your pioneering experiences to the cong and do what you can and thankyou for all you have done”. It is still rather formal but a lot kinder. Kindness in the wt?

By: Ernestine M Leach

Ernestine M Leach — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:56:14 +0000

I thought 2018 was the end of their door to door preaching work.

By: Jeff Canning

Jeff Canning — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:52:24 +0000

Scumbag religion. All religions have such bullshit doctrins…

By: Diane Spriggs

Diane Spriggs — Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:34:01 +0000

Why is the title of “pioneer” even needed? Why not just encourage each person to do as much as they reasonably can? Then there is no pressure on those who are elderly, or ill, or working two jobs, or whatever, to feel guilty for not meeting an organizational goal. It’s as if what these persons are doing isn’t enough, and the reality is, it’s never enough! You can never do enough to satisfy this organization! You should always be doing more! I left JW’s 30 years ago and have never looked back. I ended up disfellowshipped and the only part of that I regret is the impact it had on my relationship with my parents. I have always been grateful that I got out and stayed out!