Comments on: Watchtower Tells Congregants to “Use Discernment” In Their Thinking, Then Tells Them What to Think

By: Robin Kish-miller

Robin Kish-miller — Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:41:41 +0000

IT IS SATAN’S ORGANIZATION. NO ONE NEEDS TO BE MICRO-MANAGED BY 7-8 MEN WHO KNOW NOTHING.

By: nathanlovesvalerie

nathanlovesvalerie — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:19:54 +0000

Thank you for a very intriguing post Alexandra. I imagine you’ve heard the term groupthink. Irving Janis came up with the term in 1972, and it fits the JW organization to a T. It’s interesting to know that Janis developed this concept in 1972, when both of my parents became JW’s in 1974.

By: Joy Moses

Joy Moses — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 16:13:51 +0000

John Butler, Sorry that you are being shunned. It always amazed me how the ones who were best at shunning were almost always the ones who were the bullies and had too high opinion of themselves. I hope you know that shunning is a form of bullying. I personally believe that God (YHVH, no one really knows how it’s pronounced) is the Father and that Jesus is the Son; but I worship in my own way. I read a chapter of God’s Word everyday. All religious groups, in my opinion, are corrupt in some way, so I don’t belong to any! The jws are no exception, although they preach that they are. When I was a jw, they were good at hiding it for awhile, but I caught on and it sounds like you did, too. I personally think you did the right thing by leaving and I hope your wife “wakes up”, too, so they don’t cause division in your marriage. I believe when Christ returns, He will gather His followers (His Church). Priscilla and Aquila (New Testament) were passionate about being a husband and wife ministry team and were successful according to Paul. I believe God assigns missionaries all over the world, including our own backyard. So John, don’t allow the jws to manipulate you into thinking you need them for any reason. Follow God’s Word and your own interpretation of it. There are countless bible commentaries online you can use to help.

By: John butler

John butler — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:32:02 +0000

I always try to think and write in an unemotional way. Sorry Joy. I’ll start by telling you all that I left the JW Org in January of this year, so I’m no longer a brother…… So let’s ask ourselves a few questions first. Do we honestly believe in Jehovah God and Jesus Christ ? (even if we use a different name for Jehovah, such a Yahweh ). Do we believe we are living in times of distress or possibly ‘the last days’ of this wicked system ? Can we see that human governments are dishonest and can we see that wars are generated deliberately so that governments can control people for many reasons ? Can we see that life here on Earth is getting less pleasant year by year ? OK. Now do we believe that God (whomever He is) will soon do something about things here on Earth ? What I’m trying to do here is form a foundation for people to ask themselves what they truly think and feel. I’m not trying to tell you what you should think or feel….. So one important question is this. Do you, you personally, not your friend or neighbour, but you. Do you think that God has a body of people / organisation / or group of people, here on this Earth right now, doing the work He wants done ? Is there anyone or any group of humans here on this Earth right now that you feel you can trust ? Now I’ll give you my feelings. I think that the Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses (as the Org is officially called) are the only group heading in the right direction. However I think the Governing Body need removing / disfellowshipping, all 8 of them. The JW Org would still survive without them and God would restore a new body of leaders. I can fully understand people’s feeling, especially victims of the child abuse within the Org. My child abuse happened elsewhere, so I do know a bit of what child abuse is like, though of course it is different for all of us…. The Elders are just puppets, and many are not ‘fit for purpose’. But as has been said not many brothers want that responsibility now so they have to use what they can get. No it’s not theocratic, but what can they do ? Any Org needs people to take responsibility. You know in your own family, that someone has to take the lead. Parents should be in control of the money, keeping house, warmth, food supply, clothing supply, etc.. If parents fail in these things then the family suffers. So it is in the Org / congregations. Someone or ones have to ‘run it all’. If your car was very expensive and you really love it, then one day the engine goes ‘bang’ and gives up. Do you throw the complete car away ? No probably not. Expensive as a new engine may be, if you love the car, you will get a new engine fitted and then continue using the same car… I think God loves the JW Org, and I think He will have a ‘new engine’ fitted, by replacing the GB with more suitable people… Each of us makes our own choices ,hopefully. I hope that all of you , each of you, can control your own lives as much as possible. I mean governments control us a lot, working conditions control us a lot, society controls us, family may control us, so many things in our lives actually do control our lives. Our situations are all different for different reasons. But hopefully you all have the freedom to choose who and how you worship, or even in fact whether you worship at all. Please please do think about yourselves. Be very personal about your thinking. Yes I’ve been shunned since January and it feels strange. I’m married but my wife doesn’t really want to talk about any of this stuff. She may sit and listen to me but she doesn’t pass much comment. So leaving the JW Org was my own personal decision, and I am coping with it. However i haven’t given up on the Org completely. My conscience wouldn’t let me stay in the Org because of the Child Abuse / Pedophilia problem Earthwide. However, my feelings are that God will sort it all out. With new ‘management’ the Org could be restored to God’s favour. I needed to leave the Org to be able to talk about all this openly, Otherwise the Elders would have disfellowshipped me for ‘causing division within the congregation’. It would have been their duty to do that, and as I’ve said they are only puppets doing a job. So please think deeply about what you as an individual truly believe and want for your own future. Have a good day if you can.

By: Beverley Rock

Beverley Rock — Sun, 01 Apr 2018 22:53:18 +0000

All I heard was “Jehovah tells us through his organisation”…. follow the “directions of the Faithful & Discreet Slave” …… the “Faithful & Discreet Slave follow Jesus” so we should follow them. Yet they openly admit in the WT and in court that they are NOT directed by Holy Spirit!! And just in case you didn’t get the message, they introduce fear when the speaker says: “the end is near” and “the Great Tribulation is about to take place”. This is just another mind bending advertisement to follow the leaders of this cult.

By: Joy Moses

Joy Moses — Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:12:48 +0000

The governing body is not getting any guidance from the Father, Son or Holy Spirit. And the proof is in the men they allow to be elders; They are not from God, but very few men are interested in spending their time doing all that is required by them so they accept what they get. Some of them love power so much that they don’t care who they hurt to get it (such as child abuse). Some take the idea of submission to leaders in the church too far. Spiritual abuse happens when someone in a position of spiritual authority, misuses that authority, placing themselves over God’s people to control, coerce or manipulate them for seemingly Godly purposes which are really their own. When they can convince someone they are in the truth, they get your friendship and trust, and then they go after your money (with the help of those financial reports they read at the meetings). I actually get sick to my stomach when I think of the people who are made to feel they need to pledge their allegiance to what I have come to know as satan’s organization.